The Biggest Cheating Scandal In Speedrunning History

Karl Jobst

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    One of Minecraft's biggest youtubers Dream has been accused of cheating by the speedrunning community. Today I explain what went down and provide you with my conclusion based on my own investigation. Huge thanks to k4yfour for providing the Minecraft footage used in the run and also helping me understand more about the game. Thanks to the Minecraft speedrunners who answered some of my questions.
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    1. Karl Jobst

      The video is for entertainment purposes only. Please keep conversation civil and respectable. I hope you have a great New Years.

      1. Ryan XG

        You should have just left it why would a player with such skill cheat

      2. Javier_YT

        Ok

      3. RS

        Yeah

      4. Jaemf Won

        ok

      5. KrazyBoss YT

        @Cornlips 4 i did. edit: i think i am the 500th person to reply since i was gonna reply to them again saying thanks but it said it was on the max replies

    2. Spec Tolder

      I love how well this guy understands the importance of patience and caution despite basically dedicating his life to going fast.

    3. Emilio Millan

      Me: 1 in 171 doesn’t sound so bad, that could happen right? Karl Jobst: billion Me: ohp

    4. LHE Drip

      I'm sorry my man, but you looking like a walmart version of johnny from Cobra Kai.

      1. Epic haxxer

        Damn bro

    5. AlienXotic

      lol imagine if dream didn't cheat and he was just an *extremely* lucky moron

      1. AlienXotic

        @Epic haxxer HMMMMMMM

      2. Epic haxxer

        Hmmm

    6. rat named gerold

      Unpopular opinion: dream doesnt deserve half his subs. He got them all from a bit of research, using big names, and getting lucky through that. And the way he reacts and uses his fame makes it even more undeserved. He doesnt say anything about his stans because he knows he will lose subs. He puts subs first always.

    7. acecyrus1

      69% on his blazes hahah

    8. Tolga Kasap

      Imagine cheating and still not getting number one spot.

      1. Gabriel Henry

        lel

    9. Lenn Heidegger

      Dream didn't cheat!

      1. kenji calixtro

        He told us to vote for the glow squid and he will follow us. And then he lied and didn’t.

      2. サトリアデスタ

        Yes he did

      3. soupinfested guy

        yes he did, there are multiple speedrun attempts that are fake

    10. The0rangeCow

      Anyone know the music that plays around 3:56 - 8:30?

    11. Draco The Little Puff

      I think that I understand why Dream banned certain words because maybe he doesn't want to bring up even more drama. It's not great but if you think about it, so many streamers ban so many words to keep chat calmer. :)

    12. Nicholas Houzenga

      Talking about the number of hours invested reminds me of when I attempted to improve my personal best on the Generation 5 Super Train. I spent hundreds of hours training Pokemon in order to get further on the train. The mistake I made was attempting this challenge without doing enough research first. Ultimately, I was limited by weak knowledge of how Pokemon Breeding works.

    13. tbkih

      "Statistics is a complicated field": as evidenced by the inability to state exactly what events those probability values pertain to.

    14. whoosh for gay

      Fakk Dream Dintd cheta he is teh bset playrr

      1. Yellow Letters

        Like my guy I can see your other comments on this video lol

      2. Yellow Letters

        Nice bait

    15. Pokemon Karma

      Short answer: kind of both

    16. Project Anomaly

      If dream stans and flat earthers team up, they could end humanity

      1. Zookimano

        And also rickrollers

      2. soupinfested guy

        mixed with 3am youtubers and life hack videos

    17. AdminPlayz

      Space Bar

    18. uranium54321

      I’ve heard that some people have a problem with you using simulations here, and I sorta get where they’re coming from with it because the math is more concrete and gives an actual answer (like if the mod team used simulations instead of actual math it would not justify taking down the run), but I believe it was a good decision to include the simulation. Part of the purpose of this video was to explain the results to people in a way that’s easier for them to understand. Part of why so many people still believed dream after the math came out was because the math was complicated and they didn’t understand it. Anyway, great video, mainly commenting for the algorithm

    19. comment king

      DREAM CHEATED END OF ARGUMENT!

    20. Rule 9730

      If you believe in the multiverse theory then it's completely possible that it was possible for him to actually do this in this universe while in countless others it wouldn't happen.

      1. Julian W

        @morbideddie Better said.

      2. morbideddie

        If there are an infinite number of universe then yes, it happened. But the chances we are in one of those universes is 1 in 20 sextillion so the odds of dream not cheating in our universe are just as unlikely.

      3. Julian W

        @Rule 9730 Not for each universe. But for all, yes (I guess 100%).

      4. Rule 9730

        @Julian W well yeah but it makes it a lot more probable if you account for an infinite amount of universes

      5. Julian W

        That’s true outside multiverse theories too.

    21. That equestrian Penelope

      and plus we already know dream is good at tempering with the game so...

    22. ehx

      Personally, I'm with Dream on this topic - I wouldn't consider it cheating. Why, you ask? Because at this point, runs are so optimized, if you don't get perfect bartering you need to reset. So changing the odds in a loot table doesn't save PB time, it only saves real life time you would otherwise spend resetting again, and again, and again. Which is perfectly valid to get rid of. Having to reset because of RNG doesn't add anything in terms of fun to watch or required skill. Except maybe having to re-adjust to a new random seed, but that's an ability you prove to have by running well in this category at all. RNG has no value. I hereby declare that adjusting loot tables to improve the chances of rare items is 100% legitimate in the entirety of speedrunning.

      1. Robert Thorburn

        The whole point is to have everyone on the same playing field. Modifying the game to give yourself an advantage directly goes against that idea.

      2. ehx

        @Aaron King If both aspects are something you'd otherwise be willing to keep resetting for, sure.

      3. Julian W

        @Aaron King lol

      4. Aaron King

        Ok I'll use a mod to guarantee that my spawn chunk has a villager blacksmith with full iron, and a end portal with all eyes of ender in it, after all, all I'm doing is increasing my RNG Chance!

      5. Julian W

        Just play in categories where modding chances is allowed if you wanna do that. There are plenty of other categories where you can “cheat” in a number of ways. Just do TAS, don’t ruin the leaderboard for others and then lie about it.

    23. Soulreaper

      Minecraft audience is mostly kids. Good luck trying to reason with them using advanced statistics

    24. Metal Kibbles

      i was acually watching the stream when he did it. It was totally legit

      1. comment king

        he didn't do it on stream, he didn't before on the code lol.

      2. DoggoMakes Art

        He didn’t do anything in game, he altered the code lmao

      3. helicopter

        Oh no, another stan.

    25. Sir Potato

      Dream in a nutshell: Minecraft Speedrunner vs A Hunter MiNecraFt SpeddRuNner vS 2 HunTerS MIncErafT sPedruhnEar Vs 3 hunTeRS RemaAtch ReMAtcH fInalE SPEEREEDEDEJEEJGDHDJD VS 4 EJHHFHDHDHJD REMATXHXHHXFKIFIR That's Dream now I guess. It used to be fine. Also, why do people make fan art for dream with super gross weeby trashy faces and ALWAYS the stupid mask. Also, his Twitter profile picture is gross so... yea. Is this just me rambling about stuff now? Random stuff here that's funni about video hehe: 11:08 Nice

      1. dougbound

        They're little kids, dont hate too much.

    26. Farrin

      "One of the moderators, geosquare" 4-12-21 Geosquare retired as a moderator. Glad he did this for the community.

      1. Conrad

        @Farrin oh okay i really hate that dream stans anyway

      2. Farrin

        @Conrad he's been getting alotta threats and hate about the dream situation even to this day, so he finally stepped down so the stress would stop (or so I've heard from people who are close with him)

      3. Conrad

        @Farrin oh okay then why did he leave the moderators

      4. Farrin

        @Conrad how so? I didn't mean it as mean-- I also dmd geo a thank you

      5. Conrad

        Thats quite mean

    27. MANIC -

      22:35 theres the moment you"ve been waiting for

    28. VoidSurf

      I read over the report. Impressive stuff, a true research paper but written in an accessible tone. A novice won't look it over once and understand everything, they'd have to apply themselves, but it's explained pretty well. Hopefully it got some people interested in the applications of math and statistics. Maybe a 12yo kid will go on to create sentient AI in the future because of this paper lol. Props to the Minecraft speedrunning mods for producing it. Still, I love how this went from people playing Minecraft to lengthy papers on statistical inference. Haha. There's something hilarious to me about how serious gamers are about their games. Then again, games like chess have always been treated seriously. Physical sports too. They're just entertainment, but people care about them deeply. Maybe I'm biased because it's Minecraft lol. It's just funny.

    29. Josh Brown

      Comparing trillions of simulations to the small sample size in question would be like if he did ONE TRADE, got the 4% drop, then you said it was impossible because you ran a trillion simulations and the droprate was nowhere near 100%.

      1. Julian W

        If they had done THAT, then yes that would be dumb. Of course, that isn’t even remotely close to what they did. You can even write your own simulation if you don’t buy the results. It’s pretty low-lever programming. I was able to do it in a day with no prior experience.

      2. Non ho voglia di pensare a un nome adesso

        It doesn't work like that, what they did is they ran the same sample size trillions of times to see if it could happen

      3. Null Pointer

        what are you on about? the point is that even amongst thousands/millions/billions/whatever of simulations they don't even remotely get close to his luck... that's a strong argument for a non-standard game version

      4. VoidSurf

        This is all factored into the binomial distribution, which from the screenshot, it looks like that's what was used. If so, their methodology is sound.

    30. Josh Brown

      Running trillions of simulations to see if you can results that deviate from the statistical average is ridiculous and backwards. The FEWER simulations you run, the SMALLER your sample size, the more variance will occur. For instance, if I flip one coin, it will be either 100% heads or 100% tails, even though the odds are 50/50. If I flip 4 coins, there is a 12.5% chance I still get 100% heads, even though the odds are 50/50. Flipping trillions of coins makes it far less likely to get the same result as the smaller sample size, and using a huge sample to represent a relatively small one is useless and misleading.

      1. Chicken Space Program

        No, I am afraid you are mistaken. While a small sample size may have a good deal of variance, if you are trying to replicate extreme luck, your best bet is to simulate it as much as possible and hope that the rare event occurs. Also the probability of flipping 4 heads in a row is 1/2 ^ 4, or 1 in 16, about 6.25%.

    31. Josh Brown

      Droprate of 70% instead of 50% over a small sample size isn't that crazy. If you use a sample size of 1, the % will be 100 or 0. It's called variance

      1. Julian W

        @Josh Brown Like Chicken said. If we were looking at what you think we are looking at, then yes that would be hilariously stupid. This is, of course, not what is being calculated. We are looking at the chance he gets that lucky OR LUCKIER. These numbers turn out to be about the same anyway.

      2. soupinfested guy

        why is the comments section so political

      3. Chicken Space Program

        @Josh Brown Have you ever heard of a Bell curve or Standard deviation? I don't care how unlikely a SPECIFIC occurrence is, just how many standard deviations it is from the mean and thus how likely that you could get something similar. The more deviations it is from the mean the less likely it is. Dream's data is NOT within reasonable expectation. It is many, many deviations away from the mean. (I am a lazy person and therefore probably won't calculate exactly how many it is, but I can guess that it is fairly large. You are right in saying that hitting the exact rate you specified for heads after flipping a coin would be astronomical. But, to get something similar to that result would be easy, as getting that many heads is likely within only a few standard deviations. (Again, I am a lazy person, so I won't calculate this.)

      4. Josh Brown

        If I flipped a coin a few trillion times, and the rate of heads was 50.000000939554939222%... the odds of hitting that exact rate would be astronomical! But you're looking at the exact specific outcome after it occured and calculating the probability, insisting it's too rare of a scenario. That percentage still falls within reasonable expectation. Every exact scenario that occurs is rare, yet every exact scenario that occurs... OCCURS. And the more specific the factors you calculate, the crazier the probability

      5. Julian W

        But the sample size was huge, so this isn’t a problem.

    32. Josh Brown

      Saying a 16% droprate has a 1 in 166 billion chance is misleading. Getting a 4% droprate is also very low because your calculating the odds of a SPECIFIC rate. In a sample size of only a couple hundred trades, 15% compared to an average 4% is not outside the realm of reasonable expectation. There will always be variance, meaning the more samples you factor, the closer to 4% you will get, but shit happenes. To make it seem astronomically unlikely over just a couple hundred trades shows a lack of understanding of statistics

      1. Julian W

        You really aren’t very good at math, are you?

      2. Sai Animatez

        @Tjerty you could've said it a bit more politely but yea

      3. Based Boi

        Nobody cares, child, go play with legos or something.

      4. Null Pointer

        @Tjerty you're right, but still kinda rude about it. that's not really necessary is it

      5. Tjerty

        You have absolutely zero understanding of anything in this video. You are 12 or younger and you shouldn't hurt yourself by overthinking.

    33. B Pace

      Did your phone vibrate (probably on table) multiple times when recording the voiceover?

      1. B Pace

        @lemonyship96 yeah phone would sound lot worse. But I'm sure I can hear phone vibrating on background couple times during his voice over. I'm just curious if I'm right.

      2. lemonyship96

        I don't believe he records on phone

    34. Weerawatch Suriyo

      Why is many people trying to prove that he's faking it tho, oh wait it's because they are jealous. Yeah got the answer right away

      1. Conrad

        @Blast King booooooom

      2. Blast King

        Why are so few people trying to prove that people are jealous? oh wait it's because they are jealous of their intellect for their ability to prove stuff

      3. whoosh for gay

        Mans has a 7.5 trillion chances in a day's worth of speedrunning

      4. Conrad

        Bait

      5. Julian W

        It’s surely better than not proving he cheated and just assuming the math is right, no?

    35. R. a. s. a. t. i.

      even thpugh he has kinda admitted to cheating 2 times, and even though theres mountains upon mountains of evidence proving him wrong, people are still out here trying to call normal logic "dumb cuz its not proof" LIKE DAMN JUST ENJOY HIS VIDEOS DONT PROTECT HIM WHEN HES BAREFOOT ON A GLASS SHARD MOUNTAIN WITH 50 SNIPERS TARGETTING HIM WHILE HES STARVING AND DEHYDRATED

      1. I eat rocks

        @Hey It’s Austin Soooo true

      2. Hey It’s Austin

        Dream is overrated

      3. anonymous 67

        F him, if hes cheated in 1 video who's to say he hasnt cheated in his past videos ? He doesn't deserve the largest speedrunning channel

    36. Yu Gae Im Thicc

      Why dream is not hacking and karl jobst is wrong 1. He has a good gaming chair 2. He has 20m subscribers 3. He has a fanbase that treats him like a god

      1. Yu Gae Im Thicc

        @I'm Chara shhhhh the stans are gonna cancel you

      2. I'm Chara

        @Yu Gae Im Thicc they are better then dream

      3. Yu Gae Im Thicc

        @I'm Chara fruitberries and technoblade is better than dream Change my mind

      4. I'm Chara

        you forgot that his fanbase cancels everyone thats better than dream at something

      5. Conrad

        @SproutGaming ehh i dont really like meat too

    37. Mr Sarcasm

      Either dream is wrong, or the entire rest of the world is

      1. Matthew Anderson

        🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔hmmmmm

      2. whoosh for gay

        It's the former

      3. Pegasus Stan

        yeah, it's a good gamble

    38. Poisenous Puppy

      this is actually a respectable response and i respect it

    39. Micah Nelson

      guys he didnt cheat he just saw rng hacks on reddit

      1. Oh No

        Yea he probably just absorbed the luck like normal people do yknow

      2. Chicken Space Program

        understandable. have a great day.

      3. Pegasus Stan

        sounds legit

    40. Yung Cash Register AKA lil BROOMSTICK

      I just don't get the whole idea of people spending HOURS and HOURS doing the same thing over and over again because it requires luck that only 1 in 1,000,000 attempts will go your way. How about people just hack in ONLY the best possible combination that the outcome can be and just leave the rest to skill. Its the same damn thing! People are really spending days just for the luck to happen? Its all about skill. You don't lose anything if its all skill! But people want it to be lucked based too. What a HUGE waste of time. What difference would it be if I did a speed run with a time of 10 mins with the best possible random combination to happen VS the same thing, except I hack in the best possible combination and play the same. Same time, same thing, except I don't have to sit there like a dumbass trying to have the best combination. "OMG, no, you can't hack it, thats cheating". Its not cheating if the probability is possible on non hack hardware. You're just skipping the luck bullshit. This should apply for stuff like Mario Kart 64. If there is a slime chance of getting all the correct items for every shortcut possible, one should be able to hack in all those items in order and attempt to speedrun that way. "Oh, but then no one will be able to speedrun it, ever again". There has been many games that were fun to speedrun before until someone found a way to bypass the game by doing "not so fun" things. It will get to that point one day. Imagine if someone, today, by some dumb luck, someone got mushrooms in mario kart 64 for that entire speedrun. Who the hell will keep resetting it over and over again until they get that 1 in 100000000000000000000 chance of speed running it with mushrooms as the only item for that entire speed run? NO ONE! Its going to get to the point where people will hack in the probability because no one wants to sit for months and months playing the same stupid thing without luck.

      1. Robert Thorburn

        This comment highlights a total lack of understanding for the entire concept of speed running and competition.

      2. anonymous 67

        Yeah you are not very smart are you ?

      3. Jake Peixe

        My guy typed a whole MLA format essay

      4. Fluffy White Llama

        I don't like insane RNG either but I would argue that luck does contribute in a good way. It requires one to commit a lot of time to speedrunning, making their accomplishment more impressive. And let's not forget that skill is still an important factor.

      5. morbideddie

        Well for one that category already exists, it’s called SSG and you use the same set seed and route for each run. Second, routing a world on the fly and responding to the world is a skill in and of its self. SSG runs are primarily a test of execution but that’s only one aspect of skill. Yes SSG is luck based but it also demonstrates a completely separate skill and with new categories like FSG you get the best of both worlds.

    41. SproutGaming

      Dream didn’t cheat and this is my reasons 1:he is a good player 2: he just just lucky 3: he had 20m subscribers which means 20m chance 4: he is best player 5: because blazes love him 6: because piglins love him 7:because dream is handsome Most importantly: 8:Tacos are better than pancakes Thank you for coming to my ted talk

      1. Aaron King

        You're joking right?

      2. OriginWaffle

        wrong 1: waffles 2: pancake 3: taco

      3. THEminecrafter E

        Bait

      4. SproutGaming

        @Firekris 34 forgot that lol

      5. Firekris 34

        And he has a good gaming chiar

    42. Fervidor

      Honestly, while I agree the issue is suspect, I don't consider sheer mathematical improbability to be "proof" of foul play. If Dream's story is that he simply got astoundingly, unbelievably, _cosmically_ lucky, then until someone can conclusively prove that he _didn't_ get that lucky (as opposed to pointing out how improbable that is) I really don't see how we can claim he is definitely guilty of cheating. You know, innocent until proven guilty and all that.

      1. I'm Todd Howard and I made Skyrim fridge edition

        he got a speedrun with odds that were basically impossible. There is your evidence

      2. R. a. s. a. t. i.

        @Fervidor also he literally deleted his responce video, is that not enough proof?

      3. R. a. s. a. t. i.

        @Fervidor ay dude, if i told you i picked up the same grain of sand 70 times in a row in the sahara dessert 1 month apart each time, you dont need to prove how unlikely that is, you need to prove that it wasnt the same, and since you cant, i obviously did it, didnt i?

      4. The Destructive Gamer

        @Julian W also, when you look out of the window, there is a chance that you will see a cow flying, it's never 0

      5. Julian W

        @Fervidor On the last point, just search "Presumption of innocence" and check out wikipedia. "The prosecution must in most cases prove that the accused is guilty beyond a reasonable doubt." Dream has certainly been proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, since reasonable doubt is usually something like 1-10% (and Dream is far below 1% innocent).

    43. Yuxtarri _

      I actually don’t care if Dreams speed runs are fake, I just like watching people play games

      1. User

        @SproutGaming Sorry, you're both wrong. Lying to his fans about it is arguably ok, its entertainment. The problem is he submitted the speedrun, spitting in the face of the 100s of players who have spent thousands of hours each to get anywhere near that look, and lying afterwards was also wrong

      2. Blast King

        i recommend watching people cheat/hack it's quite entertaining how a aimbot destroy people and they rage

      3. Alex Greb

        @SproutGaming Exactly. Had he just owned up to the fact that he faked it and didn't pretend to hire a scientist I think this whole situation would've gone down a lot smoother.

      4. SproutGaming

        Good for you.Please continue watching this Dream.The problem is not faking speed runs,it is lying to fans who trusted dream the most.

      5. User

        No one asked

    44. N U T

      20:25 I love the use of impossible here because if you said something like,”highly improbable,” that implies that he has a chance to get this luck

      1. morbideddie

        “For all intents and purposes, mathematically impossible” describes it pretty well. It tells us that it’s not technically impossible but practically will never happen.

      2. Fluffy White Llama

        Me too. I wish more people would outright call it impossible instead of dodging the question

    45. Haroen Eissa

      I never watched a dream video, but he seems to be a very toxic person based on the info of this video.

      1. Sai Animatez

        i watched a few but it was too repetitive

      2. Syntax

        @Jay a

      3. boiled turnip

        He's not an omega-scumbag like a lot of other people you see on the internet, at least on the surface, but his fanbase or 'stanbase' (a Stan is a stalker-fan, someone who is obsessed with someone who they idolise to the point that it's creepy) can be incredibly toxic as they worship dream and attack anyone who questions him. Dream has also been pretty bad outside of the cheating thing at some points, such as making a misleading response to it and deleting it later, as well as not letting anyone in his livestream chat say the word 'Karl Jobst' or mention anything that jeopardises his public image. In my opinion, I think he eggs on his fanbase a little bit rather than controlling it and manipulates his audience to do things like change the outcome of the mob vote.

      4. Jay

        @nambo yeah I saw that video. He thinks Stan mean stalker fan, but nowadays I think people say it to replace “super fan”. I don’t think he understands that much

      5. nambo

        @Jay also, he conveniently released a video called "stans" while this drama was happening. i didn't watch the whole video (because i just can't stand dream), but it sure isn't about how bad his fanbase is. if dream isn't manipulating his fanbase, then i don't know what to call him influencing his fanbase in his own advantage.

    46. Marek Bartoň

      How can people measure luck? If I win a lottery on my 1st try after 800 million people failed does that mean I have altered the odds of me winning? I get why people are suspicious about dream altering some values but NOBODY can say that he 100% cheated. I'm with the mods that they removed the run from the leaderboards since it is suspicious but until further evidence is found or dream admits that he really did alter the values nobody can call him a cheater. I mean c'mon if there is even 1 in 999 whatever chance it means that it CAN happen. I'm not tryhard defending dream but I wouldn't ban or punish someone based on an RNG/luck thing that HAS a chance of happening until I get a concrete proof about it being cheated or altered or whatever.

      1. Kermit The Frog

        Dream deleted his response, he deleted his tweets and even made his streams mute someone for saying "Karl Jobst". Even if you don't believe the statistics are viable, surely you are a bit suspicious of the shady stuff Dream did.

      2. Julian W

        @Muhammad Soleh Quote the part you think is defending dream.

      3. Muhammad Soleh

        @Julian W of cuz you didn't say "He didn't cheat" but you seem defending Dream for some reason

      4. SproutGaming

        Yes,this guy won the lottery 100 times in a row.hmm not sus it is possible. I mean if dream didn’t cheated,he should buy the lottery lmao

      5. Julian W

        @G Gaming I never said he didn’t. Read again.

    47. Melissa Finley

      Dream is now the Billy Mitchell of Minecraft. The only difference is that Dream's reputation hasn't and never will be destroyed because his Stans will deny anything.

      1. Alex Greb

        He just has a good gaming chair

      2. Imperial joe 3: resurrection

        umm dream is just really lucky!!!1!

    48. Freddy Aamodt

      «You humour me greatly with your arrogance and contempt»

      1. Gameboy Great

        Y e s

    49. Gustavo Kunkel

      Karl Jobst >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Matt Patt

      1. Sai Animatez

        @Alex Greb yea i mean i guess he wanted to cash in but he ALSO didn't wanna make an enemy

      2. Alex Greb

        I still like MatPat but my God his video on this was such a disaster

      3. Brady King

        Didn't matt patt not even give us an answer?

    50. lil Cheap D

      11:07 nice

    51. Kozuu

      One of the main reasons I come to this channel when something like this happens is because you take the time to actually research and make a non-biased conclusion instead of jumping on the hype train. Looking at you GT.

      1. CJ Pajtler

        Who’s GT?

    52. Turalcar

      Matt Parker's criticism of the moderators' "paper" is that their math is too complicated considering how low the odds are: even if all 7 billion people played minecraft 24/7 since 1.14 came out the odds of any of them getting a Dream's result in untampered minecraft would be below 1 in a million. This explanation circumvents all biases that Dream's "response" tries to address

    53. Yellow Letters

      For the people who still want to believe Dream is innocent and or that these statistics are wrong or over inflated please explain to me why: 1) Dream deleted his response 2) He deleted his tweets 3) you can't say Karl Jobst in his twitch chat. Even if you don't believe that these statistics are correct, surely the shady stuff Dream did after confirm to you he cheated, no?

      1. Snivegare X

        I feel like what dream thought was you know what I’m good at Minecraft it’s ok if I cheat no one will notice anyway

      2. GMDrandom 628

        kar1 jobst . Problem solved

      3. Alex Greb

        Not only in his Twitch chat, on KGup his name was shadowbanned, meaning no one could see your comment except you. I literally had to go onto an alt account just to figure out which spellings worked and which didn't.

      4. Fenis

        banning "karl jobst" from your twitch chat is hilarious, honestly

      5. G Gaming

        What happens if you type this "K.ař.l Jòb.sț" would you still get muted?

    54. Hi there I am Mark

      Dream: "I accidentally modified mob drops" How would you accidentally? 1.Go to files 2.find minecraft 3.Type and fully focus on your keyboard and open, close, open and close Minecraft just to test if the coding is successful I just accidentally typed and posted this comment Im sorry, I hope I don't accidentally leave this comment lying around right here..

      1. cactus moment

        Oh, oops, I accidentally put the rickroll copypasta below 4 times, my b. We're no strangers to love You know the rules and so do I A full commitment's what I'm thinking of You wouldn't get this from any other guy I just wanna tell you how I'm feeling Gotta make you understand Never gonna give you up Never gonna let you down Never gonna run around and desert you Never gonna make you cry Never gonna say goodbye Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you We've known each other for so long Your heart's been aching but you're too shy to say it Inside we both know what's been going on We know the game and we're gonna play it And if you ask me how I'm feeling Don't tell me you're too blind to see Never gonna give you up Never gonna let you down Never gonna run around and desert you Never gonna make you cry Never gonna say goodbye Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you Never gonna give you up Never gonna let you down Never gonna run around and desert you Never gonna make you cry Never gonna say goodbye Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you Never gonna give, never gonna give (Give you up) (Ooh) Never gonna give, never gonna give (Give you up) We've known each other for so long Your heart's been aching but you're too shy to say it Inside we both know what's been going on We know the game and we're gonna play it I just wanna tell you how I'm feeling Gotta make you understand Never gonna give you up Never gonna let you down Never gonna run around and desert you Never gonna make you cry Never gonna say goodbye Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you Never gonna give you up Never gonna let you down Never gonna run around and desert you Never gonna make you cry Never gonna say goodbye Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you Never gonna give you up Never gonna let you down Never gonna run around and desert you Never gonna make you cry We're no strangers to love You know the rules and so do I A full commitment's what I'm thinking of You wouldn't get this from any other guy I just wanna tell you how I'm feeling Gotta make you understand Never gonna give you up Never gonna let you down Never gonna run around and desert you Never gonna make you cry Never gonna say goodbye Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you We've known each other for so long Your heart's been aching but you're too shy to say it Inside we both know what's been going on We know the game and we're gonna play it And if you ask me how I'm feeling Don't tell me you're too blind to see Never gonna give you up Never gonna let you down Never gonna run around and desert you Never gonna make you cry Never gonna say goodbye Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you Never gonna give you up Never gonna let you down Never gonna run around and desert you Never gonna make you cry Never gonna say goodbye Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you Never gonna give, never gonna give (Give you up) (Ooh) Never gonna give, never gonna give (Give you up) We've known each other for so long Your heart's been aching but you're too shy to say it Inside we both know what's been going on We know the game and we're gonna play it I just wanna tell you how I'm feeling Gotta make you understand Never gonna give you up Never gonna let you down Never gonna run around and desert you Never gonna make you cry Never gonna say goodbye Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you Never gonna give you up Never gonna let you down Never gonna run around and desert you Never gonna make you cry Never gonna say goodbye Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you Never gonna give you up Never gonna let you down Never gonna run around and desert you Never gonna make you cry We're no strangers to love You know the rules and so do I A full commitment's what I'm thinking of You wouldn't get this from any other guy I just wanna tell you how I'm feeling Gotta make you understand Never gonna give you up Never gonna let you down Never gonna run around and desert you Never gonna make you cry Never gonna say goodbye Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you We've known each other for so long Your heart's been aching but you're too shy to say it Inside we both know what's been going on We know the game and we're gonna play it And if you ask me how I'm feeling Don't tell me you're too blind to see Never gonna give you up Never gonna let you down Never gonna run around and desert you Never gonna make you cry Never gonna say goodbye Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you Never gonna give you up Never gonna let you down Never gonna run around and desert you Never gonna make you cry Never gonna say goodbye Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you Never gonna give, never gonna give (Give you up) (Ooh) Never gonna give, never gonna give (Give you up) We've known each other for so long Your heart's been aching but you're too shy to say it Inside we both know what's been going on We know the game and we're gonna play it I just wanna tell you how I'm feeling Gotta make you understand Never gonna give you up Never gonna let you down Never gonna run around and desert you Never gonna make you cry Never gonna say goodbye Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you Never gonna give you up Never gonna let you down Never gonna run around and desert you Never gonna make you cry Never gonna say goodbye Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you Never gonna give you up Never gonna let you down Never gonna run around and desert you Never gonna make you cry We're no strangers to love You know the rules and so do I A full commitment's what I'm thinking of You wouldn't get this from any other guy I just wanna tell you how I'm feeling Gotta make you understand Never gonna give you up Never gonna let you down Never gonna run around and desert you Never gonna make you cry Never gonna say goodbye Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you We've known each other for so long Your heart's been aching but you're too shy to say it Inside we both know what's been going on We know the game and we're gonna play it And if you ask me how I'm feeling Don't tell me you're too blind to see Never gonna give you up Never gonna let you down Never gonna run around and desert you Never gonna make you cry Never gonna say goodbye Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you Never gonna give you up Never gonna let you down Never gonna run around and desert you Never gonna make you cry Never gonna say goodbye Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you Never gonna give, never gonna give (Give you up) (Ooh) Never gonna give, never gonna give (Give you up) We've known each other for so long Your heart's been aching but you're too shy to say it Inside we both know what's been going on We know the game and we're gonna play it I just wanna tell you how I'm feeling Gotta make you understand Never gonna give you up Never gonna let you down Never gonna run around and desert you Never gonna make you cry Never gonna say goodbye Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you Never gonna give you up Never gonna let you down Never gonna run around and desert you Never gonna make you cry Never gonna say goodbye Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you Never gonna give you up Never gonna let you down Never gonna run around and desert you Never gonna make you cry

      2. Mortis

        @Oh No whoopsies! didnt mean to click reply and type these words in a very specific order.

      3. Oh No

        Whoops looks like I accidentally joined and replied to this comment My bad bro

      4. Yellow Letters

        @R. a. s. a. t. i. *opening, I can't help but accidently correct you, its a big coincidence, and left you the chance to correct me.

      5. R. a. s. a. t. i.

        @Hi there I am Mark read* whoops i accidentally corrected you and left a small opepening for people to correct me

    55. Muhammad Soleh

      if you wondering why we, Stan Hunters still in this comment, our goal isn't to cancel Dream. Our goal is just to hunt his fanbase that attack people who disagree with Dream.

    56. pointless crap

      Not to claim he did or didn't cheat, but I just have to say (Edit: removed smarmy claim that I know more than people who actually research this topic and added the disclaimer) DISCLAIMER: I'm an unqualified idiot, but removing this comment would be to deny it happened so I'm leaving it mostly unchanged. There's a noticeable difference between theoretical probability and the actual physical results. A deck of cards has 52 unique cards, and if you have a hand of 5 then the likelihood of someone else ever getting the same hand as you is astronomically small, yet people will draw the same hand multiple times in the same set of games. Just because something has a probability of happening, say, 1/5 times doesn't mean that you will consistently only see it 1 in every 5 attempts, you could get the result more or even less often than the probability would normally dictate. The blaze rods drops are not that much higher than usual (69% Vs 50% is well within the realm of possibility given RNG being, well, random), but the ender pearls definitely do raise suspicion

      1. Julian W

        @Não This video? Maybe. Was a while since I watched. You'll save a lot of time just doing the math though. But then you gotta know it.

      2. Não

        @Julian W isn't that kind of the simulation the guy in the video did?

      3. Julian W

        Even if your not super mathy, you can test the 69% vs 50% thing with some basic programming knowledge (just write a program that can flip a coin, record the results, print them and do all that any number of times). This whole cheating thing actually revived my interest in programming.

      4. Fluffy White Llama

        Respect to you for acknowledging you were wrong. Not many people are like that nowadays.

      5. Não

        You are also misunderstanding, in said metaphor he didn't get the same hand once, he consistently got the same hand on a period of 24 hours, witch is an extremely big difference

    57. Legend

      Dream tampered with the blaze rod drop rate because he couldn't resist 69.

      1. fletch_the_cheems

        @w I l i a m 8 2 0 0 7 a l t sus

      2. w I l i a m 8 2 0 0 7 a l t

        @The Imperfect God 😳😳😳😳

      3. The Imperfect God

        sextillion 😳

    58. abdullah saleem

      I like dream But his fan base That’s is the biggest pisstake you’ll ever get

      1. Robert Thorburn

        Dream is the undertale of content creation.

      2. The Destructive Gamer

        @abdullah saleem nope, dream is a disgusting person with a huge ego

      3. abdullah saleem

        @Monke P nah they think they are smart but they ain’t Literally dream is a nice guy but his fans are something else ( not in a good way)

      4. Monke P

        I stopped watching him because of his fans they’re so obsessed with him

    59. wG0D

      It doesn't help that he makes a lot of Minecraft coded videos...were he takes credit for altering the game's code. now we are in a scandal about him altering the games code. This is funny. He has incomprehensible odds against him and experience on what he says he didn't do and dream stans still think that they have a sliver of right to say he didn't cheat. Don't defend the unknown children.

    60. SirJevil TH

      Its possible i even got ender pearl in 1st try with 5 piglins and other just give trash

      1. Neko Luxuria

        @Double896 do believe that most minecraft speedruns are done in the java edition.

      2. Double896

        Was it on Java or Bedrock?

      3. Neko Luxuria

        this is not a case of occurance, this is a case of consistancy. you can definitely get say 5 pearls in a row and then cycle between 1s and 2s, possibly 3s and rarely 4s. but in the case of the research he had a consistant trade rate and that's when things get fishy. that and his attitude doesn't help his case either

      4. Conrad

        @wG0D he is one of us hes just saying that its possible to other commenter

      5. wG0D

        @crypticLemon over the course of 24 hours straight? if he did one run alone, got that luck, and logged off, there wouldn't be an ounce of suspicion he cheated. but again, you are incompetent so ofc you can't understand

    61. Evan Uthus

      Why would you set the probability to 15% instead of 4.5% that’s just asking to get caught. if you set it to 6 or 7% people may just chalk it up to luck

      1. Julian W

        Kinda greedy, yes. Maybe he didn't understand that ca 15% is too much if you play for many hours.

      2. The Imperfect God

        cheating in general is asking to get caught...

    62. Zraygamer10

      People are complaining that comments that mention him cheating are banned, the reason is dream would just get attacked repeatedly for something that he already knows about. This point people have made is invalid.

      1. Julian W

        @Zraygamer10 Turn them off. Pro tip!

      2. Zraygamer10

        Don’t reply, it’s flooding my notifications.

      3. SproutGaming

        @Zraygamer10 he lied to 20million people.

      4. Neko Luxuria

        problem is that if you ban them then they will keep coming. it makes his claims even more questionable because he is applying censorship and his attitude previously makes it very damming. personally while the math is a factor, the biggest reason why I do believe he cheated was simply his attitude.

      5. Julian W

        ​@Zraygamer10 It's totally fair to continue criticising Dream until he at least confesses and apologises. He should probably apologise to all of us moderately competent programmers/mathematicians at this point with all the misinformation on statistics going around. If your issue is with the math or the code used to run the simulations, then deal with that first. The evidence against Dream is stronger than most evidence you'll encounter in your entire life. In fact, I challenge you to find a cheater that has stronger evidence against him. If you're not well-versed in math, check out mathemaniac or whatever he is called.

    63. Gandolf Merlin

      He is a filthy cheater who doesn’t admit to his obvious bs and now tries his hardest to ban and block everyone who talks about it with his 20k mods in chat He feels so entitled that he thinks 1 in million chance is enough to get away with his fake run but in the end he is right because his fans are minecraft kids

    64. Kaine wishes to be here

      All I gotta say is, how would you feel IF dream actually cheated, yknow he came out and apologize for it, Because I still see people hanging onto this, Dream delt with it his own way, the mod team delt with it as well. Why can't we just let this go !

      1. Kaine wishes to be here

        @Kirby Fazendo um Moonwalk I have my own beliefs and opinions I can express how I feel about in my own way so if you believe that then sorry

      2. Kirby Fazendo um Moonwalk

        @Kaine wishes to be here he did actualy cheated, If you dont want to Believe then sorry

      3. Hi there I am Mark

        In addition Im not a Dream stan because Dream is such a fucking loser

      4. Conrad

        @Hi there I am Mark he ecplained it to me okay no need to start a war

      5. Hi there I am Mark

        @Conrad Thats why the user Caps locked "if"

    65. M-MIJARES, CEDRIC A.

      i feel betrayed i hope his manhunts arnt scripted

      1. M-MIJARES, CEDRIC A.

        i mean he did post full videos of the manhunt fullhours no cuts

      2. Matthew Anderson

        I don't think they are but we'll never knoe

      3. M&M

        @SproutGaming wait what?

      4. SproutGaming

        It is unfortunately

    66. cum man

      NOOoooOOOOooo he just lucky, dream wouldn't lie to his fans (Puts fist through monitor)

      1. cactus moment

        This is very wholesome™ 0 fellow chungi

      2. cum man

        @Ben Brawler WOW R/WOOSH REDDIT FUNNY WOOOSH JOKE FUNNY REDDIT MOMENT 100 GOLD KIND CHUNGUS

      3. Oh No

        Do not fear For *flex tape is here*

      4. The Imperfect God

        B-B-BUT HE DIDN'T CHEATED I *ALSO* GOT PEARLS SUPER EASY LMAO Y'ALL JUST UNLUCKY BRRRRUUUH!!! 🤡

      5. Ben Brawler

        I feel like someone is about to get wooooshed...

    67. TASPATSPRO

      He cheated and got away with it. His main gig is speedrunning, and he cheated. I don't understand why he isn't actually "cancelled", even tho I hate the term.

      1. cactus moment

        too big to fail

    68. Jerome Powell

      Sometimes you just run 100 standard deviations above the mean

    69. Ryan

      Dream is the biggest clown on the internet.

      1. Pigg

        @The Destructive Gamer yes, even terrorists don't deserve to be defamed publicly. you can make fun of him with your friends but don't post it on a platform where hundreds, if not thousands of people may see it.

      2. The Destructive Gamer

        @Pigg uh,dream literally ruined drem's life, he and his family and friends still get death threats for cheating last year, dream literally got no hate. Do you have any more words?

      3. nate the mate

        Wait dream is morgz and jake paul combine

      4. Muhammad Soleh

        nah, I found someone worse but I personally think Dream is *one* of the biggest clown on the internet

      5. A dog that found youtube

        @Pigg true true

    70. Intense Animations

      Wait, didn't he show his mod folders to the speedrun mods? I watched both videos and now this video and I agree that the odds are so high that even I couldn't get them, but his mod folder show that there was no mods that edited RNG. While I still believe it was still a cheated speedrun, there could be proof of him not cheating and anyone against him never brings up the mod folders. There are also many times where people got an insane amount of ender pearls, about 8 ender pearls twice in a row from on piglin. Despite other people getting that luck, (I'm not sure if they were speedrunners), they didn't show mod folders, so they could have been cheating as well, I'm stuck on both sides, on one hand Dream's odds were impossible, on the other hand he showed his mod folders, someone tip me over to one side because I don't wanna get stuck in no mans land.

      1. wG0D

        did "other people" go 24 hours consistently getting both triple luck on piglen trades and 70% drop rate on blazes with every run? IF his luckiest run of the stream was the only known run he made that day, he wouldn't of had an ounce of suspicion. the fishy part is not how good each run was, but how he always averaged the same drop rates you would hope for.

      2. morbideddie

        You can still mod the game without putting mods in the folder. The game code is accessible and modifying the drop rates are as simple as modifying a few numbers in a table.

      3. actWasHere

        And your also wrong about him showing the mods folder, he didnt show it right away (I believe).

      4. actWasHere

        im not hear to argue, but I'll say the common rebuttal to that. Dream was using something called Fabric API, which allows you to modify different values in the game without using other mods. I'm not sure the specifics of it, but that's how most people think he cheated. Since then, all runs with Fabric API have been denied since it allows people to cheat in the game without having any mods loaded.

    71. Timothy Mattson

      I DON'T HAVE ANY PATIENCE! BURGLE-FLICKEL!!

    72. Mitchell Fagan

      I've never played Minecraft but your analysis was beautiful Such in depth and explanations were a true beauty Thank you sir 👍

    73. Adler Joseph Albert

      dream used to be my favourite minecraft youtube, not anymore

    74. Mani Dhingra

      all this information made me disappointed in dream but I still am not sure why he would cheat. all these other big KGuprs are saying they trust dream and he wouldn't lie, but this math is correct, so I don't know what to believe.

      1. GMDrandom 628

        @unaura yeah.... do not want the stans

      2. Random Canadian

        Believe the math. Math doesn't care about friendships and hate bombardment. KGuprs do.

      3. FireroseNekowolf

        Math. The simple truth is numbers don't lie. If the math checks out, then that's the truth.

      4. E- tan

        A lot of big youtubers are either friends/associates of dream, so they want to be on his side by default, or don't want twitter stans to attack them.

      5. unaura

        The reason the other big KGuprs are saying they trust Dream is because they don't want to get the dream stans angry at them

    75. GD diamond pickaxe

      improbable doesnt mean impossible

      1. Yu Gae Im Thicc

        Sup 8yrs old gd player

      2. Kirby Fazendo um Moonwalk

        @Icii _ ur mom doesnt care about you

      3. Hi there I am Mark

        @Icii _ Bruh I think youre saying "Anti-Dream-hater" That is hating on "Anti-Dreams' Anti-Dreams are smarter than you little butthurt Stan

      4. BoomZ

        @Brady King strong bait. good job.

      5. Brady King

        @BoomZ 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

    76. Ace Legoshi

      Ive actually tried getting ender pearls for 19 mins straight with my friend specifically on 1.16 we waited 19 mins to pass by the total amount of ender pearls we got were bedrock edition: 2 stacks Java: 3 and a half I actually kinda knew from the start dream cheated the speedrun.

      1. Ace Legoshi

        @Vysakh Venugopal try 1.16 better bc that's when dream got really "lucky" on bartering with piglins and got tons of pearls and you get ender pearls easierr

      2. Vysakh Venugopal

        Dude, I recently traded about 36 gold ingots in 1.16.4, No. Of ender pearl : 0

    77. sav

      Yeah he cheated

      1. nambo

        is that pakgo in your pfp??

    78. Lait Siv

      I almost choked when I saw that number 1 in 20 sextillion lmao wtf

      1. R. a. s. a. t. i.

        with every new name it increases by 3 0s (theres also an extra 3 at the beggining representing thousands) million, mil 1 1 000 000 billion, bi 2 1 000 000 000 trillion, tri 3 1 000 000 000 000 quadrillion, quad 4 1 000 000 000 000 000 pentillion, pent 5 1 000 000 000 000 000 000 sextillion, sex 6 1 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 septillion, sept 7 1 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 octillion, oct 8 1 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 nonillion, non 9 1 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 decillion, dec 10 1 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 so the mods said his chances were 1 in 7 500 000 000 000 dream said it was 1 in 10 000 000 but it was really 1 in 20 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 to put that number in perspective to be that lucky youd need to pull the same number randomly from 1 to 1000 7 times in a row, *devided by 20*

    79. Jordan Donaldson

      Just Bc it’s improbable doesn’t mean impossible 🤷🏻‍♂️🤣🤣

      1. TimeZoid

        p(cheating) > p(luck) , its too likely for him to cheat rather than be that lucky

      2. Matthew Anderson

        Bruh the chance of life? What even-

      3. Oh No

        @Jordan Donaldson you say you're 30 but you have the iq of a 3 year old

      4. Chris Hansen

        @Jordan Donaldson No way you are 30 you seem like you are 11

      5. Aegis

        @Jordan Donaldson "go back and do some research" a perfectly ironic comment by someone parroting dreams already heavily debunked video. Sad.

    80. Thomas Hodgson

      mmmmmmmmmm honestly I've been watching dream for a while and im pretty sure he wouldn't cheat

      1. Chris Hansen

        For the people who still want to believe Dream is innocent and or that these statistics are wrong or over inflated please explain to me why: 1) Dream deleted his response 2) He deleted his tweets 3) you can't say Karl Jobst in his twitch chat. Even if you don't believe that these statistics are correct, surely the shady stuff Dream did after confirm to you he cheated, no?

      2. Brady King

        mmmmmmm honestly, I've been watching Karl Jobst for a while and I'm pretty sure he has common sense.

      3. ak47anduzis

        He would cheat you 8 year old Thomas

      4. ThePotatoPainter

        Yeah, but he did cheat.

      5. Pegasus Stan

        @MicrowaveSponge If microwaves were stupid

    81. RhysDX

      The fact that he deleted his response on KGup after all of this OMFG! I can’t believe this guy 🤦‍♀️ That’s all I’m gonna say Edit: apparently he deleted his tweets, regarding my thoughts on him deleting his YT response, I am SO GLAD he deleted those god awful tweets. Even though he only deleted them to hide the fact that this controversy ever happened (which is shameful), those tweets had no business being there in the first place and they were there for long enough when it really didn’t need to.

      1. RhysDX

        @Basketball Player Clarify?

      2. Basketball Player

        @RhysDX will there alot of death threat coming in twitter

      3. Javier_YT

        Of course he did he just embarrassed himself

      4. RhysDX

        @William Christofilos yeah trying to make us forget about all of this and pretend it never happened. Very disappointed in Dream

      5. William Christofilos

        @RhysDX you're right. Thats because he knew he cheated

    82. surprized dog

      11:09 nice

    83. blooiee

      *shows undeniable facts proving dream cheated* dream stans: “and i took that personally”

    84. retrosashia

      the piglins arent neutral btw, the pigmen are the piglins will attack you always but will stop if given gold pigmen only attack if you attack them, or they see you attack another pigman

      1. Oh No

        Yes, neutral does mean that

      2. bruno ramello

        he is kinda rigth

      3. Just A Mothman With Internet Access

        Litteraly what neutral is lol

      4. Muhammad Soleh

        that's literally the meaning of neutral in Minecraft

      5. mobhan

        That's what neutral means

    85. LittleCaeser

      Mad respect for the ME1 galaxy map theme playing in the background

      1. LittleCaeser

        @lasterman that’s all I remember it being in. I haven’t played the games in roughly a year or so

      2. lasterman

        It's the same in the 2 other ME, I don't know why you precise ME1, but yeah, always nice to hear it even at random like that

    86. Waouben

      The age of the universe is not long enough to get such luck from anyone

    87. Metro

      My view on “is dream guilty or innocent” i think hes guilty

    88. aditya dragon beast

      2:30 "even if the conclusion doesn't change, people deserve the right to showcase their points" *Happy Karen noices intensifies*

    89. Brewster

      ha 69%

      1. lemonyship96

        nice

      2. PurpleIris

        nice

      3. Buncha Idiots

        nice

      4. Casually Depressed

        nice

    90. edward wen

      The discreet enemy curiosly tick because test especially crack onto a educated hospital. lucky, plastic sand

      1. Basketball Player

        what this not hospital this video game

      2. w i l l i a m 8 2 0 0 7

        yes

      3. ThePotatoPainter

        What?

    91. Omni

      The dream fans like to argue that it’s still technically possible, dude, there’s a difference between *mathematically* impossible and *humanly* impossible. There just aren’t enough Minecraft speedrunners let alone people living on earth for at least one person to get this kind of luck, it’s far too improbable. Would you seriously believe me if I told you I had a friend who won the lottery 60 times consecutively and died mid air from a lighting strike? Funnily enough that’s more likely to happen than dream not cheating.

      1. Omni

        Guys that last part was a hyperbolic joke chill

      2. BoomZ

        flipping a coin 60 times in a row and it landing on heads is a 1/1152921504606846976 chance, that's a 50% chance 60 times in a row. winning a lottery 60 times in a row is an uncountable amount luckier than dream. doesn't deny that dream cheated though, it's just that odds aren't that easily comparable

      3. Abhigyan Dutta

        @NA Piano lol....thats not how probabilities are calculated

      4. Abhigyan Dutta

        @NA Piano and how did you calculate such a thing? Enlighten me

      5. Abhigyan Dutta

        Even though dream cheated, your probability calculation seems a lot off. Winning lottery 60 times is a lot luckier than dreams luck.

    92. ENDER SKYTRAP

      what is karls skin

      1. Deus Vult

        Hopefully someone in a suit. And no not schlatt’s skin

    93. YL

      Watching this high is funny asf

      1. Aegis

        @bruno ramello that's what they all do, it's an ego boost Source: I also got high when I was younger

      2. bruno ramello

        i just fell like you commented this to brag that you are high

      3. unaura

        ikr dream suckks

      4. YL

        Dream got clapped lmao

    94. neonicon

      idk if u read comments on your old video but can u do a update or wtf happen to this guy it seems like everything is fine for him now when he clearly cheated....

      1. The Destructive Gamer

        @bruno ramello literal fax

      2. MicrowaveSponge

        @bruno ramello yep

      3. bruno ramello

        @MicrowaveSponge he could kill someone and still be fine

      4. MicrowaveSponge

        he's popular and has an overly defensive fanbase so he can get away with shit

    95. terrell fair

      The thing about statistics is that you can do math all day long. You cant change the fact that low probability doesnt imply impossibility im not defending dream but saying the chances are extremely low isnt a good argument because the numbers say that it CAN happen

      1. Brady King

        @morbideddie now I want to mash my key pad to see if that happens jfbdhdebsjiawnakaoenfbfueniewuwhwbsusuwbebdhdudhejqpauxb Nope, didn't happen

      2. terrell fair

        @morbideddie im talking about probably as it refers to RNG in a video game which choses in game events based off pre selected values yes it can work the other way around and you are completely right. Im not defending dream Im not saying anyones points arnt valid. Im just saying RNG is such a fixed thing you can try a million times and manage to never replicate a scenario is all im saying.

      3. terrell fair

        @Damn Cat if its not an isolated event then you have a point but my point is as far as RNG goes in a game I couldnt convict someone just baised off crazy RNG. Because. I play a few games that can grant both incredible and terrible luck. World of tanks for example with its damage mechanics again im not defending the guy. Im just saying it doesnt seem right to definative convict someone off luck RNG in one game. But if it happens alot in his streams like you say then that sounds more convincing

      4. Joshua Netanel

        @terrell fair the issue is, not only can you convict someone of a crime just based on odds, people have been convicted with odds off 1/1,000,000 while dreams odds are 1/7,500,000,000,000

      5. Damn Cat

        @terrell fair dude... It wasn't a single event, it happened many times in a row, and Dream isnt some random guy

    96. Scott Wallace

      It's possible that Dream is innocent. Maybe his mom tampered with the odds while he was asleep.

      1. DoggoMakes Art

        morbideddie damm you, mommy

      2. Javier_YT

        I can't tell if this is a joke or not

      3. Scott Wallace

        @morbideddie Not all dogs are good boys. Some are good girls.

      4. SAMR

        @morbideddie i am so sorry master I was wrong my whole life

      5. morbideddie

        @SAMR Incorrect, in none of Dreams runs did he ever tame a wolf to get a dog. Even if he did get a dog all dogs are good boys and thus would never do something bad. I rest my case.

    97. ran d

      where are the posters

    98. DomyElatrop

      Congrats for the world record

    99. identity theft is not a joke Jim

      I don’t like being called an absolute legend, I’d rather be called your bitch 😈

      1. bruno ramello

        oh... ok then

      2. Pegasus Stan

        @FunRunner I am now one of them

    100. ̇

      Nice